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Humankind – A Hopeful History

Rutger Bregman in conversation with Philippe Sands

70 mins watch time

Posted July 2021


It’s a belief that unites the left and right, psychologists and philosophers, writers and historians. It drives the headlines that surround us and the laws that touch our lives: human beings, we’re taught, are by nature selfish and governed by self-interest. In this conversation with human rights lawyer and award-winning author Philippe Sands QC, the bestselling Dutch historian and viral superstar Rutger Bregman makes a new argument: that it is realistic, as well as revolutionary, to assume that people are good.